since coming into law, obama care caused more people to lose health insurance than gained it through obama care. >> that is startling. a new report out this week, on thursday claimed that president obama never held a one-on-one meeting with kathleen sebelius who is in charge of obama care, head of hhs. the white house on friday, jay carney held a press conference and says those reports are erroneous. of course he met with kathleen sebelius and often those aren't logged into the log book. listen to jay carney. >> cabinet secretaries don't regularly get entered into the visitors' logs because they come frequently. kathleen sebelius comes frequently and meets frequently with the president. i will refer you to the department for more information and more detail. she is here a lot. >> that's simply not true and he is being disingenuous there. it's not about the law books, but the president's personal calendar. that is what the initial report was citing. >> why is there so much documentation for others members of the cabinet? why is it on record for former secretary clinton having met 73 t